Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Buddy´s knife jazzedition

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 11:29, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Buddy´s knife jazzedition

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Seemingly non-notable specialty jazz book publisher with only a few titles. Article has been tagged for notability and reference-improve since 2011. Previously PRODded and contested in 2011. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:12, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:33, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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*WT:JAZZ notified. AllyD (talk) 08:47, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

weak delete in its current state, as unsourced. I'd be happy to keep it otherwise (I see small specialist publishers as being appropriate encyclopedic subjects), but we do need some independent sources. Even a few decent reviews of books they've published would be enough. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:30, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No notability or external coverage here. Just as most small businesses are not notable, so too this is not notable. Neutrality^talk 05:10, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep there seems to be quite a bit of coverage in various google books. The Wire source discusses some of their publications with some substance. The article does need a bit more cleanup, but as sources are taking note of the publisher and its publications I think notability is established. Candleabracadabra (talk) 02:08, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If we weren't going to keep it as an independent article, I'm not sure why it can't be merged to the article on its creator? Candleabracadabra (talk) 02:16, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - or second choice it could be merged to creator, but first choice Keep since seems to have enough coverage in jazz publications to merit keeping by the limited frame of WP:GNG within the jazz world,. We have to make allowances that classical/jazz publications have a smaller pool of secondary sources referencing them than pop music publishers and magazines. I note also that there wasn't a WP Jazz and still isn't a WP Publishing or WP Germany template on the Talk which means this AfD won't hit Alerts. Candleabracadabra notified me of this AfD, knowing that I'm favourable to jazz and classical coverage, but then in the absence of project tag and Alerts it was a fair notification. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:54, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Caldeabracadabra: Would you do the honors and notify any WikiProjects that you think need to know about this? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 05:14, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I notified In ictu oculi because I know that he has expertise in music subjects. I'm not very familiar with wikiprojects or which might be helpful. Itherwise, off the top of my head, I think user:Drmies is fairly knowledgeable and experienced on music subjects and might be able to assist. Candleabracadabra (talk) 15:52, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by nominator In light of the lack of notifications to certain very relevant WikiProjects, I have no objections to "restarting the clock" and waiting until January 1 to close this AFD, assuming it isn't a clear "keep" before then. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 05:14, 25 December 2013 (UTC) Disregard per notification on 22 December 2013. Keep the original timeline. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 03:18, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: See above (08:47, 22 December 2013) - Wikiproject Jazz was previously notified and this is linked on the project talk page. (The project doesn't have an automated notification infrastructure set up.) AllyD (talk) 11:19, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:09, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as non-notable, no proof of notability presented. The reference of The Wire is about the book, not the publisher. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 21:07, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator comment No objection to merging into the article about the company's creator, Renate Da Rin (and keeping the edit history) instead of "delete", but if it is closed as "merge" I recommend a "hard" close, with the same "force" as an AFD-deletion has. Be aware that the creator's article is currently tagged with {{notability}}. The creator's page has also been PRODded in the past. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:33, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 21:36, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.